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- Misc.kids Frequently Asked Questions
- AFP Screen and the Triple Screen
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- [NOTE: this is information collected from many sources and while I
- have strived to be accurate and complete, I cannot guarantee that I
- have succeeded. This is not medical advice. For that, see your
- doctor or other health care provider.]
-
- SUMMARY:
-
- These screening tests are used to predict which pregnancies
- are at elevated risk of certain abnormalities. They do not give
- conclusive results; an abnormal result means that more testing is
- suggested. This can be very distressing. Especially distressing is
- that some caregivers and books do not make clear the inconclusive
- nature of the tests; women have been told that their baby definitely
- has a defect on the basis of this test. This is irresponsible
- medicine. Most women with abnormal results will have healthy normal
- babies. Below are some details about the tests and what they can and
- cannot do. The information is mostly taken from two brochures
- prepared by the Laboratory of Pathology of Seattle and the Swedish
- Hospital Medical Center. I have also added information from other
- sources.
-
- Every woman contemplating these tests should have access to accurate
- information in order to make an informed decision about whether or not
- to have the tests, and how to interpret the results. Unfortunately
- there are enough stories on misc.kids to show that this does not
- happen. Perhaps the following will be helpful to those contemplating
- having the screen, or people who have had the screen and have gotten
- disturbing results.
-
-
- INDEX:
-
- 1. What are the Screens?
-
- Neural tube defects:
- 2.a What is alpha-fetoprotein
- 2.b Why is age of the fetus important?
- 2.c What are the neural tube defects and their severity?
- 2.d What are my chances of having a baby with neural tube defects?
- 2.e What about folic acid?
- 2.f Will this test detect all cases of neural tube defects?
-
- Down's Syndrome
- 3.a What is Down's syndrome?
- 3.b Will this test detect all cases of Down's?
-
- General
- 4.a Will this test guarantee a normal baby?
- 4.b How are the results presented?
-
- 5.a What should I do if the values are abnormal?
- 5.b If the ultrasound is normal, does that guarantee a normal baby?
-
- 6.a What are the benefits of the test?
- 6.b What are the risks of the test?
- 6.c Should I have the screen?
-
- 7. What are some resources for more information?
-
- 8. Some stories from women who have had the tests.
-
- ----------------------------------------------------
-
- 1. What are the screens?
-
- 1. This FAQ covers questions about two similar tests that are available
- for pregnant women. The first, AFP, is a measurement of
- alpha-fetoprotein. The second test is newer and combines the AFP test
- with measurements of two hormones, unconjugated estriol and
- human chorionic gonadotropin. It is often called the "triple screen".
-
- -----------------------------
- Addition by Dr. Tim Reynolds:
-
- The triple test is a mis-nomer. The test combines AFP with a variety of
- different assays and no definite proof of which is best currently exists
- In fact they are all about the same so far as data available allows us to tell.
- Combinations available are.
-
- AFP + total HCG
- AFP + Free beta HCG (free beta is a subsection of the HCG molecule)
- AFP + total HCG + unconjugated estriol (uE3)
- AFP + free beta HCG + uE3
- AFP + free beta HCG + uE3 + Free alpha HCG
- AFP + free beta HCG + uE3 + neutrophil alkaline phosphatase
-
- The detection rates reported for these different combinations all suggest
- Detection rate is about 60% and differences of 1-2% exist between different
- combinations: However the data available is not sufficient to determine
- which combination is better. Other evidence suggests that as the number of
- analytes used to estimate risk increases, the errors become multiplied and
- the result becomes less accurate. It is probably better therefore to use the
- simpler screening combinations (AFP + total or free beta HCG) and not bother
- with uE3, free alpha or any of the other markers. If you are told that you
- can have a 2-marker test or a 3-marker test if you pay more: opt for the
- 2-marker test.
-
- -----------------------------
-
- Both tests use a blood sample from the mother at a specific time
- during pregnancy. The AFP can be done during weeks 16 to 18 LMP,
- the triple screen can be done from weeks 15 to 18 LMP.
-
- -----------------------------
- Addition by Dr. Tim Reynolds:
-
- The test can be done using AFP + free beta from 11 weeks, but the diagnostic
- test has a very high rate of miscarriage (up to 5%) so it is best to wait until
- 14 weeks (at least). The accuracy of the test is affected by gestation dating:
- It is best to have an ultrasound scan before the screen to confirm your
- gestation dates.
- -----------------------------
-
- An elevated level of AFP in the sample indicates an increased risk
- of neural tube defects in the fetus. A depressed level of AFP
- indicates an increased risk of Down's syndrome. The triple screen uses
- levels of all three substances to indicate increased risk of Down's.
- This is considered a more accurate screen for Down's.
-
- -----------------------------
- Addition by Dr. Tim Reynolds:
-
- Down's syndrome is associated with decreased AFP and uE3, and increased HCG.
- A combination of low AFP and high HCG is particularly significant. The
- maths of calculating results is quite complex but also takes into account
- the maternal age.
- -----------------------------
-
- Neither test can tell you if something is wrong with your baby. Only
- a diagnostic test (such as chorion villi sampling or amniocentesis)
- can tell definitively if something is wrong. The AFP and the triple
- screen help to identify pregnancies that are at increased risk.
-
- BEING AT INCREASED RISK DOES NOT AUTOMATICALLY MEAN YOUR BABY HAS A
- DEFECT! Most women who find themselves in the elevated risk
- category give birth to healthy, normal children. This fact is
- often missed when interpreting the results of this screen.
-
- -----------------------------
- Addition by Dr. Tim Reynolds:
-
- In young women, the predictive value of a +ve Downs screen result is about 1%:
- i.e. only 1 in every 100 young women with a +ve result will be carrying a
- Down's fetus. In older women, the +ve pred. value is about 4%.
- -----------------------------
-
- 2.a What is apha-fetoprotein?
-
- 2.a AFP is a protein produced by every fetus. The baby urinates it
- into the amniotic fluid, and it makes its way from there into the
- mothers blood for excretion. There is a normal range of AFP found in
- the mothers blood; this is determined by the age of the fetus.
-
- A baby with an open spinal defect often leaks larger quantities of AFP
- into the amniotic fluid, and in turn, into the mothers bloodstream.
-
- An elevated level of AFP *does NOT* diagnose a neural tube defect!
- Babies with such defects tend to produce more AFP, which gets into the
- mother's blood, but there are also other reasons for an elevated
- level. The most common reason for elevated AFP is that the age of the
- fetus was estimated incorrectly. Twin pregnancy would also tend
- to show elevated levels.
-
- -----------------------------
- Addition by Dr. Tim Reynolds:
-
- This is a good reson why an ultrasound should be done first because it is
- not possible to do Down's screens on multiple pregnancies: An amnio
- is needed for confirmation of result and it is virtually impossible to be
- certain that trisomy cells found in a twin pregnancy come from a particular
- twin: This leads to the possibility of a selective abortion in which the wrong
- twin is aborted: Ergo, Down's screening in twin pregnancies is very inadvisable.
- -----------------------------
-
- 2.b Why is the age of the fetus important?
-
- 2.b The normal ranges of AFP and the hormones of the triple screen
- will vary with the age of the fetus. So in order to determine if the
- values are in the normal range, one must have an accurate date. This
- can be problematic if date of conception or last menstrual period is
- not known. For women with cycles significantly longer or shorter than
- 28 days, or who don't have regular cycles at all, scheduling or
- interpreting the results of the screens will be difficult if not
- impossible without ultrasound to more accurately date the fetus.
-
- The first thing that many doctors do when a patient has an abnormal
- AFP or triple screen is request an ultrasound to recalculate the age
- of the fetus (and to rule out twins). Often the recalculated age
- is enough evidence to rule the screen result normal.
-
- -----------------------------
- Addition by Dr. Tim Reynolds:
-
- Better to do scan first (this is standard practice in most centres in the UK).
- -----------------------------
-
- 2.c. What are the neural tube defects and their severity?
-
- 2.c The two main defects are spina bifida (open spine) and anencephaly.
-
- The problems associated with spina bifida will vary with the size,
- location and nature of the opening in the spine. Problems range from
- mild backaches to severe mental retardation, paralysis, bowel and
- bladder control problems and leg deformities. Generally speaking, the
- AFP test is more likely to detect the more severe forms of spina
- bifida.
-
- Anencephaly is a failure of the brain and skull to fully develop.
- It is incompatible with life.
-
- 2.d What are my chances of having a baby with a neural tube defect?
-
- 2.d In the US, about 1,600 to 2,000 babies are born with spina bifida each
- year. About 800 are born with anencephaly. (from American Baby, jul 93)
-
- The cause(s) are unknown. Having one child with a neural tube defect
- does increase the probability of having another. Yet, over 95% of
- babies with neural tube defects are born to families in which there is
- no history of birth defects or pregnancy problems.
-
- 2.e What about Folic Acid?
-
- 2.e Folic acid (or folacin) is a vitamin found in green vegetables,
- legumes and other sources. An average diet is generally deficient in
- folic acid. Studies have shown that when women with known risk
- factors of having a baby with neural tube defects take folic acid
- supplements from before conception to about 8 weeks of pregnancy, they
- can reduce their risk for these defects. A more recent study claims
- that this is beneficial for all women, not just those with previous
- risk factors.
-
- For pregnant women or those trying to get pregnant, the recommended
- daily amount of folic acid is either 400 or 800 micrograms (.4 or .8
- mgs) depending on what source you read. It is very unwise to take
- more than a 1000 micrograms (1 mg) a day, as folic acid at this level
- can mask other serious health problems. In fact, because of this
- caution, in some places folic acid is not sold over the counter as a
- stand alone supplement. This may be changing due to this new link to
- neural tube defects. I was able to find 800 mcg folic acid capsules
- over the counter in Washington state. Someone from Pennsylvania
- reports that it is not available there except by prescription. All
- prenatal vitamins ought to have at least 400 mcg. The FDA is also
- considering requiring fortification of grain products with folacin.
-
- While the benefit of taking folic acid on neural tube defects is
- limited to early in pregnancy, it is still an important nutrient for
- building red blood cells and is important throughout the entire
- pregnancy. Some doctors are beginning to consider it as important as
- iron supplementation. Talk to your dr for his or her recommendation.
-
- 2.f Will this test detect all cases of neural tube defects?
-
- 2.f No. The screening process will detect 80% of the cases of spina
- bifida and 90% of the cases of anencephaly.
-
- -----------------------------
- Addition by Dr. Tim Reynolds:
-
- Hence the argument for a detailed ultrasound scan at 18 weeks (routine UK
- practice in most good centres is a dating scan either at booking (8-12 weeks),
- or when the Down's test is collected (16 weeks): PLUS, a detailed 'anomaly
- scan' at 18-20 weeks.
- -----------------------------
-
- 3.a What is Down's syndrome?
-
- 3.a This chromosomal disorder is characterized by varying degrees of
- mental retardation and an increased risk of physical defects. It
- occurs in about one in six hundred births. The risk increases with
- the age of the mother, but women of any age can give birth to a baby
- with Down's. Until recently it was thought that a woman's age was the
- only indicator of Down's risk. Measuring the amount of AFP, or
- better, the triple screen, and using this information as well as age
- will give a more accurate estimate of the risk of delivering a baby
- with Down's.
-
- 3.b Will this test detect all cases of Down's?
-
- No. 25% of the cases of Down's will result in abnormal AFP,
- while 60% of the cases will register as an abnormal triple screen.
-
- -----------------------------
- Addition by Dr. Tim Reynolds:
-
- Above line incomplete:
-
- The detection rate is dependant on maternal age: in young women (age 12-16),
- the average detection for a multi-marker test will be about 40-45% and for
- an AFP only test, about 20% (There is NO SANE REASON for testing for Down's
- using AFP only: this is completely superceeded by multimarker testing). In older
- women the detection rate for the Down's screen is much higher and can be up to
- 90-95% in women aged 45+. The 60% figure quoted in most women's magazines
- is the average detection rate for a normal population assuming all women are
- screened. If all women over 35 get an amnio and only younger women are screened,
- the apparent success of the screening test will look poorer: If only older
- women get screened, the apparent success rate will look better (Many of the
- differences in detection rates for different screening combinations can at
- least partially be explained by age distribution differences in the study
- populations).
- -----------------------------
-
- 4.a Will this test guarantee a normal baby?
-
- No. Most defects are not detected by this or any other test. However
- a few rare defects may be detected in addition to neural tube defects
- and Down's. Some pregnancies which may be at increased risk for low
- birth weight and prematurity are occasionally identified, as are some
- twin pregnancies. Note that this identification does not come from
- the screen itself, but from follow-up testing.
-
- 4.b How are the results presented?
-
- The results may be presented in a number of ways. It is important to
- understand what your numbers mean. Ask your caregiver to explain.
-
- The triple screen might be given as a probability such as: "based on
- maternal age your risk of Down's is 1/390 --- when the levels of AFP,
- HCG and uE3 are also taken into account, your risk is 1/14000. Based
- on AFP levels, your risk of neural tube defects is 1/1400."
-
- Or the results might simply be positive/negative, or normal/abnormal.
- You will probably want to know exactly what that means. Ask. In
- fact, there is controversy as to what "abnormal" means. Try to find
- out what your lab considers abnormal. They are working from the more
- detailed probability information.
-
- I think that it is becoming more common for the results to be
- given as probabilities, which are more meaningful than a simple
- "positive/negative" which is impossible to interpret. Probabilities
- can still be kind of scary to interpret though.
-
- -----------------------------
- Addition by Dr. Tim Reynolds:
-
- Probabilities can be very misleading and are often 'over-interpreted by
- obstetricians as a way of avoiding doing amniocenteses. The usual risk cut off
- in the UK is 1 in 300: Using this cut off about 1 in every 50 amnios will yeild
- an abnormality. Some obstetricians use 1 in 150 as a cut off. This halves the
- number of amnios they do. The rationale for using this cut off is that the risk
- of abortion due to amnio is about 1 in 150. Since in the 1 in 300 group you
- expect 1 in 50 amnios to give an abnormal result it is evident that their
- argument is specious.
- -----------------------------
-
- 5.a What should I do if the values are abnormal?
-
- Your caregiver should recommend an ultrasound to get a more accurate
- dating and to rule out multiple fetuses. Over 90% of the time,
- abnormal AFP values are due to these or other benign factors. Then a
- second AFP test might be run. If that is also abnormal, a more
- sophisticated ultrasound and amniocentesis would be suggested. The
- diagnosis of neural tube defects usually requires a combination of AFP
- testing, ultrasound and amniocentesis. Diagnosing Down's requires
- amniocentesis, but an ultrasound can be suggestive (see next question).
-
- -----------------------------
- Addition by Dr. Tim Reynolds:
-
- It is best to get amnio first as this prevents the anxiety!
- -----------------------------
-
- Since time and worry can be an issue, perhaps you and your caregiver
- will decide to get the more sophisticated level 2 ultrasound on the
- basis of one abnormal test. This is something that you should discuss
- with your caregiver.
-
- 5.b If my ultrasound is normal, does that guarantee a normal baby?
-
- 5.b No. The ultrasound exam, however. will identify the majority of
- defects which cause a high AFP level. Factors such as the experience
- of the ultrasonographer, the weight of the mother, the position of the
- fetus and the quality of the equipment can affect its accuracy. In
- addition, there are no reliable ultrasound findings for Down's.
-
- However, Down's can be strongly suggested by an ultrasound because
- Down's babies often have a certain body/face type. From one woman:
-
- "There are, however, several characteristics that are common to
- Downs' babies that a skilled ultrasound technician can look for. My
- technician measured the femur (usually short in Downs' Syndrome
- babies), checked the number of blood vessels in the umbilical cord
- (Downs' babies sometimes have one fewer), checked the width of the
- forehead (usually wider for a Downs' baby), and checked the heart
- (apparently, Downs' babies are more likely to suffer from heart
- defects). A finding that none of these characteristics are present
- does not guarantee a healthy baby, but it may provide some
- reassurance, particularly in a case where the AFP reading is only
- borderline low."
-
- Here's some statistics about elevated AFP and normal ultrasounds:
-
- Physician-researchers at Boston's Brigham and Women's Hospital,
- after studying 87,584 pregnancies, reported that an elevated AFP
- [alpha-feto-protein] level in conjunction with a normal ultrasound
- scan implies a less than 0.1 percent chance that the baby will have
- one of the four most common birth defects. In light of the finding that
- amniocentesis itself carries a 0.5 to 1.5 percent chance of terminating
- a pregnancy (Robin J.R. Blatt, Prenatal Tests), the researchers have
- concluded that "many women may choose not to have an amniocentesis
- when informed that the risk of pregnancy loss is substantially
- greater than the likelihood of finding an anomaly". (New England
- Journal of Medicine 323, No. 9, Aug 30, 1990)
-
- 6.a What are the benefits of the test?
-
- It can help you make decisions about your pregnancy. If the results
- are abnormal, and follow-up diagnostic testing shows defects, some
- women may decide to terminate the pregnancy. For those who carry an
- affected baby to term, the information can help in managing the
- delivery and early care of the infant. This can improve the long and
- short term outlook for the child. Sometimes when the AFP level is
- high, but the baby is normal, it is a forewarning of later pregnancy
- complications such as prematurity or low birthweight. Knowledge of
- this risk may alter the management of your pregnancy.
-
- There is recent evidence that shows that babies born with spina bifida
- may benefit greatly from being delivered via cesarean section. So having
- a cesarean in addition to other early intervention could significantly
- change the outcome for such a child and his/her family. (the woman who
- told me this could not find the source for reference. Your doctor
- might have more information. I could not find anything on medline but
- I am a medline novice.) [It looks equivocal. There is no consensus
- on this, and it may end up being decided one way or the other--so
- the answer is, ask the doctor.]
-
- 6.b What are the risks of the test?
-
- An abnormal result may cause considerable worry and concern. Since
- most women with abnormal results will have healthy normal babies, you
- may decide that the test is not worth the possible anxiety. Some
- statistics: about 5% of women tested will have abnormal readings.
- About 90% of those will not have affected babies, but have abnormal
- values because the dates were calculated wrong, there are twins, or
- other reasons. So, for every 1000 women tested, about 50 will be told
- they have increased risk, and of the 50, about 45 or more will in fact
- have normal pregnancies. Some people feel that the high level of
- "false-positive" readings make the test not worth the risk.
-
- The tests are relatively cheap. However, follow-up diagnostic testing
- is not. These costs may be covered by insurance.
-
- The test itself has no risk to the baby. The only risk to the mom is
- pain from the blood draw. However, if the results are abnormal, you
- may wish to opt for an amnio to relieve your worries. Amnio does
- carry a small risk of miscarriage.
-
- The test will not identify all cases of neural tube defects or Down's.
- The problems for a baby with spina bifida range from the very minor to
- the very severe. Generally speaking, the test detects only the more
- severe problems. However, you may not be able to get exact details
- about the severity in any particular case. This could lead to months
- of anxiety.
-
- The AFP cannot be done until week 15 or 16, and takes about a week to
- get the results. Followup amnio means even more waiting, so if
- termination is decided, it will probably not happen until week 18 at
- the earliest. This can be very difficult emotionally, and more
- difficult physically than an early termination option with the CVS.
-
- -----------------------------
- Addition by Dr. Tim Reynolds:
-
- Depending on the equipment your lab has, the result may be available
- within 24 hours. In my lab we are aiming for a 6 hour turnaround.
- -----------------------------
-
- 6.c Should I have the screen?
-
- No one can answer that but you. Making a decision means learning as
- much as possible about the possible outcomes, and thinking about what
- you would do in each case. Then ask: Will the results of the test
- (positive or negative) change what you plan to do? If not, then there
- is no reason to have the test and risk the anxiety that an abnormal
- result would bring.
-
- I can tell you why I chose to take the test, and why my sister chose
- not to have the test. Now these are only two of many stories. And I
- had a reassuring result on the triple screen, (but no baby yet to
- confirm) and my sister has two healthy babies. Perhaps our answers
- would be different in hindsight if the situations were different. I
- am sure that many other women have different reasons for electing or
- not electing the test.
-
- I read everything I could about the test, including the two brochures
- my midwives gave me. My husband and I discussed what we might do in
- case of scary results. Given our personal views and our stages in
- life, we would be willing to opt for the amnio, and potentially
- termination if the results were very extreme. Extreme for us is
- probably something that is incompatible with life. And if results
- were bad but not extreme, we would find it helpful to know something
- in advance. We are planning a homebirth, so knowing that there were
- problems with the child in advance, we would change our minds and
- deliver in a hospital with a good neonatal unit. I also think that
- the extra months of research and gathering of support before birth
- would make it easier for me, my husband and our marriage to prepare
- for a handicapped child. I am not yet old enough, nor are there any
- familial factors, to be in a high risk category otherwise, so would
- not be doing genetic testing unless the screen indicated a potential
- problem. So we saw the test as useful information.
-
- Plus, the midwives have been very clear about the nature of the test,
- and assured me that a bad result should not be considered alarming. I
- trust that if we had gotten bad news, we would have been given timely
- and helpful information and referrals to specialists. I think that
- would help to alleviate the inevitable anxiety of any possible result.
-
- My sister and her husband have very different views. They would never
- consider termination for any reason. So an abnormal result could mean
- months of anxiety, since they would not consider the risks of the
- amnio to be worth it. Countering my reason about knowing in advance
- and being able to get some information and support before a baby with
- a defect is born, she would argue that since it cannot tell you *how*
- bad the defect might be, it is still not worth the worry.
-
- 7. Further Resources:
-
- If your caregiver does not provide detailed description of what the
- test is and is not, then you should complain. Everyone ought to get
- accurate information before electing a test with such an emotional
- component.
-
- Here are some books recommended by various people.
-
- Sheila Kitsinger: _Your Baby, Your Way_ as a good general pregnancy
- guide that has good section on AFP testing.
- ------------------
- "I found a book in the local library on prenatal tests (again, we have
- since moved so I can't give you a reference; however the title was
- something like "Prenatal Testing: What You Need to Know") that
- actually listed averages and ranges for the AFP levels at different
- points in the pregnancy & gave some information on how those ranges
- corresponded to risk of abnormalities."
- -------------------
- "I suggest that you refer readers to a terrific book on the
- psychological effect on women of prenatal testing, _The Tentative
- Pregnancy_ by Barbara Rothman. (This would go in your section 7, I
- guess). The book was written before AFP became common, and deals with
- amnio for women 35 and over, but is really very helpful.
-
- The running theme in the book is how women planning amnio protect
- themselves by not conceptualizing the fetus as 'their baby' -- even
- not feeling it kick until after the amnio results are in. Hence the
- title. She talked with women with a wide range of viewpoints, from
- "my sister-in-law has Down's and I would have amnio no matter what my
- age", to "I could never abort or risk hurting my baby, no matter
- what."
-
- The book also covers borderline diagnoses (chromosomal abnormalities
- that may or may not lead to problems), knowing the baby's sex (she
- strongly recommends _against_ this), the roles of husbands, doctors,
- and genetic counselors in the decision-making process, and how to
- minimize the negative psychological effects throughout a tested
- pregnancy (e.g. don't fall into the trap of thinking negative amnio ==
- perfect baby).
-
- Given my experience with an AFP Down's scare, I believe that the AFP
- extends this tentative pregnancy most painfully to younger women in a
- way that might be called 'the on-and-off' pregnancy. In the typical
- AFP scare for a woman younger than 35, you are tentative in the first
- trimester because of the risk of miscarriage, then you get
- un-tentative and the fetus becomes a baby to you. If your AFP then
- indicates a high risk of Down's, overnight you have to distance
- yourself from the pregnancy again in case you have a bad amnio
- result. By this time your baby is kicking, of course. Then finally
- your amnio is fine, and you can go back to feeling really pregnant
- again. This roller-coaster is a nightmare!
-
- Rothman does point out that AFP can save older women from the trauma
- of amnio if their results are normal."
- -----------------------
-
-
-
- 8. Some stories from women on misc.kids who have had the screen.
-
- --------------------------
-
- I had a borderline low (whatever that means!) AFP result when I was pregnant
- for the third time. I had miscarried just 2 months before conceiving, so I
- was considered at somewhat higher risk for problems (according to one of the
- 5 doctors in the group practice I went to; the others did not feel that
- conceiving so soon after miscarriage constituted a measurable risk). I
- was told that the risk of Downs was about 1 in 270, and the doctors
- recommended amniocentisis. I did not want to have amnio, primarily because
- of the recent miscarriage. I requested a second AFP test, and they gave it
- to me, although they said that their policy was to only offer a second test
- when the initial result was high. This is because the AFP level normally
- increases during this period & a somewhat higher level with re-testing would
- be expected. However, since the results are interpreted in light of how far
- along the pregnancy is, I reasoned that a re-test might provide meaningful
- information. The re-test was normal (risk of Down's reclculated at about 1
- in 780, which was consistent with my age at the time). I also had an
- ultrasound at this point and the technician checked for several
- characteristics that are common to Downs' Syndrome babies. She found none,
- and after that I was able to relax & not worry about the AFP test. I gave
- birth to a healthy baby boy.
-
- Carol Fischer (cfischer@sbu.edu)
- Mom to Katie (2/12/89) & Mark (8/3/92)
- -----------------------------
-
- Personal anecdote: since ultrasound and AFP are non-invasive,
- we decided to take the AFP. We would not have done so had the only
- folllow-up possibility been amnio, since the relative risks were not
- worth it to us for neural tube defects. If an ultrasound showed a
- neural problem, we might then consider amnio. For Down's, we would
- not take amnio as this doesn't indicate severity, we were told,
- merely incidence. We therefore would not terminate a Down's child, so
- considering relative risks, amnio wasn't worth it (I was 28, so low risk).)
-
- Gail Anderson <ga@aiai.edinburgh.ac.uk>
- -----------------------------
- We went through an AFP scare during my first pregnancy (a low
- result on the triple screening test, indicating a slightly
- increased chance of Down's Syndrome). I had let them do the
- blood test without really thinking about the consequences (and
- without realizing that I could have refused it); we had just
- assumed that the results would be normal, just as we assumed
- (also erroneously) that everything else would be fine with the
- pregnancy too. After we got the results back, we spent several
- days agonizing over what to do but then finally decided against
- the amnio because we weren't willing to take even the small risk
- of anything happening to our baby. Sadly, I lost the baby a few
- weeks later due to my incompetent cervix; she was very premature
- and couldn't survive on her own, but she was perfectly healthy
- and did *not* have Down's.
-
- For my second pregnancy, we decided right away to refuse the AFP
- test. Based on our first experience, we now know that there is a
- high risk of a false positive result (in other words, a good
- chance that the test will indicate a possible problem even when
- the baby is perfectly healthy). We knew that we would once again
- refuse to do an amnio for the same reasons as last time (and felt
- even more strongly about that once we found out that I was
- carrying twins, since a twin amnio is even more complicated and
- risky than a single baby amnio). To us, it just wasn't worth the
- risk of having another abnormal AFP result hanging over our heads
- for half the pregnancy, even though we knew that probably the
- results would come back normal and thus be reassuring to us.
- Thomas and Alison were born August 7, 1993, and were both perfect
- and healthy.
-
- We feel strongly that every pregnant woman should be given this
- kind of information in order to make an educated decision for
- herself -- not just a decision of what to do if the AFP test
- comes back abnormal, but first a decision of whether to even take
- the AFP test!
-
- Amy McNulty
- amy_mcnulty@vos.stratus.com
-
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- "I am four and a half months pregnant with my first child and had a
- terrible experience with this test a couple of weeks ago. My doctor
- phoned me at 7 pm one night and said that my AFP test results had come
- back VERY abnormal and that I had a one in 17 chance that I was
- carrying a Down's Syndrome baby. After repeatedly telling me that he
- didn't do abortions (unsolicited info), I was scheduled for an
- emergency ultrasound, which fortunately appeared fine. More
- importantly, my doctor then told me that based on the ultrasound
- dating, my AFP test results were recalculated and came back normal (I
- had been instructed to take the AFP too early--at less than 15 weeks,
- and the lab was told I was at 16 weeks at test time). I am angry
- because this doctor miscalculated my due date, which is what caused
- the error (I have been very certain about my dates all along) and at
- his alarmist attitude. I'm also angry because several of the books I
- was frantically consulting during the sleepless nights after his phone
- call had misleading info. I am now consulting a new doctor and feel
- better about my own situation, but my confidence has been shaken and
- I'm sure there are a lot of other people who have been through similar
- traumas."
-
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- At about this time last year, I had my AFP test. It was a little
- high. (we had taken a cvs test, so we knew that down's was
- not a problem. wouldn't you know it would come back high --
- spinal and nerve problems are definitely not covered by the
- cvs test.) I was told by my doctor that when the test registers near
- the border line in either direction, that the likelihood of
- a problem is smaller. Their policy was to give another
- test, and if the results were duplicated, look for alternative
- means of determining whether a problem exists. In my case, the
- results came back high again. They still reassured me that
- the likelihood of a problem was small. I then had a Level II
- ultrasound which indicated that there was a 99.5 chance that
- nothing was wrong. I was satisfied with that. I now
- have a healthy baby girl.
-
- My sister also had AFP test oddities. Hers, like yours was low.
- She had opted not to have an amnio since she was not planning to
- do anything if there was a problem, and was extremely worried about
- miscarrying. My mother then spent the next several months worrying
- about her grandchild-to-be. My sister, after the initial
- shock, was more fatalistic about the whole thing. She also has
- a very healthy, normal little girl. (I began to wonder when
- I got my own weird results if weird AFP results ran in families!)
-
- My point? I think that the AFP test has a lot of false results.
- Try not to worry too much. I tried to get as much information
- as I could at the time, (most of the details of which I have
- forgotten) but remember being really surprised that the test
- was as unreliable (and popular!) as it was.
-
- I remember all that I went through while waiting to find out
- if every thing was okay. At first I was really sorry that I
- had taken the test especially since I was going to proceed
- regardless of the test results. Later, I realized it might be
- better for my baby if I knew there were problems in advance. That
- way if the baby required any special treatment, or having
- a c-section or whatever, I was prepared and so were the doctors.
-
- I know what a difficult time this is. But you're right - take
- it a day at a time and try not to worry too much -- I think
- the odds are in your favor.
-
- Good luck.
-
- suez@stdavids.picker.com (Susan Zemel)
- -----------------------------
-
- I'm 31 years old and expecting my second child. I took the AFP when I was
- pregnant with my first and the results were normal. About two weeks after I
- took it this time, I got a call from the advice nurse with my OB practice, and
- she indicated that I had a 1/120 chance of having a baby with Down's Syndrome,
- based on the test. I was in such shock that I didn't really know what
- questions to ask. She told us that my test was most likely indicating a false
- positive, but that the only way to be certain was to have an amniocentesis.
- She said could set up an appt. with a genetics counselor and asked if I was
- interested in having the amnio. I numbly replied "yes". At this point, I
- didn't think to ask for a re-test, or ask for more detailed information. When
- my husband called her back the day before our appt. with the geneticist to ask
- questions, she was quite nonchalant! Very disturbing!
-
- We saw a genetics counselor, who explained the risks of Down's Syndrome for the
- average woman my age and my risk as indicated by the test. I was immediately
- suspicious when she explained that the dates used in testing were based on
- LMP. I felt that my "real" dates differed from LMP dates by about 4 days (LMP
- indicated I was farther along than I was). The geneticist re-ran the
- calculations, just to see what the risk would have been had I been not quite as
- far along in the pregnancy (by 1/2 week). The risk in that case was only
- 1/280, and they consider anything better than 1/200 normal.
-
- So, we had a Level II ultrasound, which confirmed the LMP dates to within a
- week. The doctor (a perinatologist (sp?), not one of the OB's in my practice)
- said she couldn't change the date used to calculate my risk of Down's since the
- ultrasound confirmed the date _within the accuracy of the ultrasound_.
- Luckily, there were no indications of Down's from the ultrasound.
- My husband felt very reassured at that point that nothing was wrong, but I
- really needed to know for sure. So, we also opted for the amnio. Amazingly, we
- found out the results in only a week (rather than the 2-3 weeks the advice
- nurse had originally told us). Our baby girl is not a Down's baby!
-
- If/when we have another baby, we plan NOT to take the AFP. The anguish we went
- through was horrible and we were really lucky not to have to wait so long for
- the results of the amnio. The AFP is so imprecise that 1/2 week meant all the
- difference in terms of dating the pregnancy. I'm not surprised that it
- commonly gives false positives. I'd much rather have a Level II ultrasound on
- the next go-round and skip the AFP.
-
- Laura Weaver
- laweaver@ralvm29.vnet.ibm.com
-
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-
- Here's another horror story with a happy ending.
-
- I wasn't sure whether I wanted to have the AFP test. I had read the FAQ
- and saw all the people on the net who had had false alarms with it, so I
- talked to my Dr. about it for a long time. She recommended it, but said
- I didn't have to have it. I asked if the triple screen was available,
- figuring that even if one of the numbers came back alarmin, that the other 2
- numbers might provide enough information so that I wouldn't have to have
- an amnio. She said it was available.
-
- After wavering back and forth for a month, I decided to go ahead with it.
- So at 17 wks I had the triple screen. The nurse told me they were moving
- in the direction of phasing out AFP only and doing all triple screen.
-
- Well, you guessed it. The next week my Dr. called and told me that based
- on the test my chances for Down's were 1 in 180 rather than the 1 in
- 800-or-so that they should be for my age. The AFP number and the
- estriol number were normal, but the HCG number was 3 and a half times the
- median.
-
- Luckily I was able to get an appointment the next day for the level 2 U/S
- and possible amnio. I was still hoping to avoid the amnio, and I figured
- that they could look for signs of Down's on the U/S.
-
- When we got there, the genetic counsellor told us that the HCG value was
- the most sensitive of the 3 numbers - that a Down's baby could cause that
- number to go up and leave the other numbers in the normal range. Also
- the perinatologist told us that most Down's babies look normal on U/S.
- She would increase someone's risk estimate if she saw certain things on
- U/S, but she would never decrease it based on not seeing anything abnormal.
-
- I think I was under the U/S for about a half hour. No signs of Down's
- were seen, which made me feel a little better, but based on the stuff
- above, we decided to have the amnio. The procedure itself wasn't that
- bad. It pretty much felt like getting a shot or getting blood drawn,
- although I could tell when the needle hit my uterus. But I was terrified
- because there is about a 1 in 200 chance of losing the baby this way,
- through the water breaking or through infection. They said any fluid
- problems would occur within 48 hours, but an infection could develop
- slowly over 2 weeks, and the baby could die without my noticing anything
- wrong. They told us it would be 10-14 days before the results were ready.
-
- I was relieved after a couple days when I hadn't had problems. One bad
- possibility down and two to go. Then the agonizing wait for the
- results. I was terrified every time my phone rang. But then luckily on
- the last day before we were to leave town on vacation, I got the call
- with good results!!! Two down and one to go. We weren't sure whether we
- wanted to know the sex early, so I told them to put it in an envelope and
- send it to us so we could decide later if we wanted to open it.
-
- Every day on vacation I made sure I could still feel the baby move, and
- my Dr. heard the heartbeat at my next appointment, past the danger time
- for infection. Whew!
-
- I guess all's well that ends well, but I'm a little upset that despite
- how informed I was about the AFP and all, that I still went through
- exactly what I was trying to avoid, and that I put my baby at risk. It
- seemed like each individual decision that we made, made sense by itself,
- but when you look at the whole experience it was a series of escalating
- interventions, which is the same thing I'm afraid of happening to me in
- labor. In fact, I feel like I started it, since if I hadn't said
- anything, I would probably have just had the AFP alone, which was normal,
- and not had to go through it all. Maybe the risk of false alarms and amnios
- is just the price that has to be paid by people like me who want to know
- early if anything is wrong.
-
- Physically this has been an easy pregnancy for me so far. I didn't have
- bad sickness in the beginning, and I've felt great all through this 2nd
- trimester. But emotionally it has been very difficult, first with two
- spotting scares early on and now this. I just want the baby here and safe.
-
- On a lighter note, I got some more U/S pictures of the baby, including
- one of it sucking its thumb. They said the baby was really active.
-
- Now we've got the envelope with the baby's sex written in it, sitting at
- home tempting us. I found out they told my Dr. the sex, too, and it's
- right in my chart! She didn't know I didn't know, so it's a good thing I
- mentioned it before she let it slip.
-
- I just don't know if I want to know ahead of time or not. Part of me
- thinks it's silly not to look at the information that's available. But
- on the other hand, if we knew then it would be hard to keep the secret
- from others, and I don't want to get sexist gifts like clothes with pink
- frills or footballs. The knowledge of the gender can be misused for
- sexist inculturation, so maybe it's an advantage for the baby to stay
- gender-neutral, at least while we're shopping for nursery stuff and
- clothing. I'm trying to think of advantages and disadvantages either way.
-
- Anyway, for those of you who have read this far, thanks for listening, and
- celebrate with me that this scare is over!
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